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Lourens · Feb 24, 2009, 03:55 PM // 15:55

/not signed you can display protector of tyria/cantha/elona its not like you cant show of you completed those campaigns its fine the way it is , leave it be

MithranArkanere · Feb 24, 2009, 05:51 PM // 17:51

This cannot be done. You can make them in any order. You can finish the HM ones before making the NM ones.

Shayne Hawke · Feb 24, 2009, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Won't work. LG right now tallies the HM and NM completion of campaigns in the same track. What happens to the guy that does all of the HM missions in Master's and doesn't follow suit for NM under your plan?

payne · Feb 24, 2009, 07:27 PM // 19:27

I do think that as long as they DO NOT contribute to GWAMM track then its fine...as casual players don't want to grind for hours to achieve a lame title - when an easier more casual option is available.

now how about a title "I have more common sense than to spend my life on an online game getting GWAMM"?

DragonRogue · Feb 24, 2009, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

This cannot be done. You can make them in any order. You can finish the HM ones before making the NM ones.

Hmm. I had not thought about this. However while it is true that HM can be finished before NM, it is not likely that this would be how most would go about doing this title track. And I am sure there is a way for the proposed Legendary Protector(1) check box to not appear before the completion of all the games in NM reguardless of how many HM mishs were finished. So I would imagine that if someone did go about finishing the HM before the NM then that check box would never appear because on completion of the NM then it would go straight to (2). Maybe that a "where there's a will there's a way" mentality could over come this problem. Or establish an order to the way its completed within the title track. Since HM cannot be unlocked without completion of NM first.

But, being that I am not a programer and dont really know how it is all coded, this could be why the title was never implemented in the first place. That it was too difficult to program and that no one cared enough to take the time to figure it out or thought anyone would really care if it was not there. Thinking about the other title tracks and how they are put together, it is logical that this would require that a seperate title track be added which would throw the GWAMM mechanic off. IE, 3 skill cap titles to make a 4th legendary. Tho a GW tech would have to confirm this.

However this is a suggestion thread where people go to ask about a change. No one really thinks it will be implemented in this game. But it was obviously put here because the ideas of the community may have been overlooked, or never thought of, by the Dev team when the game was created. That some one might just have an idea that can be done to improve this game or something that should be addressed in GW2. Its just a shame that no Dev ever comes on to respond on why or why not something can or can not be implemented. It would be a great help to those who post here trying to make the game they love even better. And it would also help people understand a bit more about how things are done in the game. With this understanding, maybe needless debates about minor things, would not get blown all out of proportion.

So whether or not it CAN be implemented in this game is not really the issue as much as WOULD people like to have seen this title implemented and how. Whether it can is really up to the Dev teams. And if not in this game, then they should really think hard about it in GW2.

Nereyda Shoaal · Feb 24, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

/signed

The question "Should this title be implemented" is absolutely wrong
The question should be "Should it count towards GWaMM or not"

Having this title is so obvious. You have to be an absolute ignorant not to want it

Adding it to the game should be piece of cake. I don't see any obstacles from technical point of view

pingu666 · Feb 24, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04

just make it 3/6 then?
you could have 3 protector titles
you could have 2 protector and a guardian
you could have 3 guardians

MagmaRed · Feb 24, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11

With no benefit to it but personal gratification, I see no point in it. You already get the 3 Protectors, and adding a Legendary does nothing for you if not adding a title to GWAMM. Displaying it will be a sign of what? That you own and completed all 3 games with bonus/Masters? I just don't see the point in it, and if it did add another title to GWAMM, I'd be happy as it would make things easier, but mad because it would make things easier. :O

I also like how you speak for the mods on the board. Or did a mod edit that into your post and forget to indicate what they did?

SOF · Feb 24, 2009, 09:24 PM // 21:24

/notsigned
Waste of time when more stupid titles like Drunkard should be fixed..

Evil Bones · Feb 25, 2009, 02:45 AM // 02:45

/signed
It would be great for a noob to be able to display a title.
Legendary protector Level one

yurak · Feb 25, 2009, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Yes, technicly you could get the r1 by doing HM missions, but if you do HM first ultimatly you would get the NM missions [and ultimatly the max tier] too. It shows that a person has got the skill to complete multiple missions, potentially on multiple dificulties.

This title is more appealing to the casual gamers who haven't got the time/effort to do HM missions.

glacialphoenix · Feb 25, 2009, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by DragonRogue

So whether or not it CAN be implemented in this game is not really the issue as much as WOULD people like to have seen this title implemented and how. Whether it can is really up to the Dev teams.

I agree with this. I don't think people are going to get mad if this isn't/can't be implemented: if it can, good. If it can't, so be it.

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Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal

The question should be "Should it count towards GWaMM or not"

It shouldn't. Firstly because it upsets the existing title track, and there's going to be a massive uproar at that. Secondly because ANet is not going to implement any more titles precisely because of that reason.

Had this been a thread about it being a separate title, I would have said no, it's a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Lourens

you can display protector of tyria/cantha/elona its not like you cant show of you completed those campaigns its fine the way it is , leave it be

Then by rights you shouldn't need to display Legendary Guardian either, since you can show all six separately. Difference is, LG counts towards your GWAMM title.

pingu666 · Feb 26, 2009, 01:05 AM // 01:05

a whole bunch of my characters have the 3 prot titles, but im only vaguly interested in doing hardmode stuff on 1 of em, so id would quite like this...

Kattar · Apr 16, 2009, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Please use the poll to /sign or /notsign this idea. There's no need to post a response without anything else to add.

Raccoon · Apr 17, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Of all the things that can be improved in this game, you want everyone to take note of this?

Get some fresh air kkthx.

/notsigned

Proff · Apr 17, 2009, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by pamelf

/signed. Same for LDoA. I think when you hit 16 there should be a tier 1 title you can display so people at least know you're progressing and you're going for it.

If you're in pre and level 16 obviously you're going for it, even if not on purpose since it's the title in pre without tiers.

MithranArkanere · Apr 17, 2009, 06:35 PM // 18:35

I thought I already explained why can't this be done.

You can get Guardian before Protector.
They may be related, but they are different titles given for doing different things.

Nereyda Shoaal · Apr 17, 2009, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I thought I already explained why can't this be done.

You can get Guardian before Protector.
They may be related, but they are different titles given for doing different things.

Uuum.. be kind and explain it to me again

Guardian is 6/6
Protector is (would be) 3/6

So how do you get Guardian before Protector?

MithranArkanere · Apr 17, 2009, 09:26 PM // 21:26

You don't even need to unlock Hard Mode with a different character:
- 1. Get to the final mission without making all bonus objectives in at least one mission, so you don't get Protector. Now you can play in Hard Mode.
- 2. Make all missions and complete all bonus objectives in hard mode. Now you have Guardian, but NOT protector.

Protector is NOT always done before Guardian. Ranks of the same title are acquired by earning the same kind of points.
"Mission + Bonus in NM" is NOT the same kind as "Mission + Bonus in HM".

Protector is given for completing all mission in Normal Mode.
If the points of both Normal and Hard mode counted for one title with two ranks, then someone could make something like making 8 missions in normal mode, 7 in hard mode, and get Factions Protector without making all normal mode missions. And so, that won't be Factions Protector, because Factions Protector is the one that made all Missions and Bonus objectives in normal mode.
That's why there were separated from the start. It's so simple I can't understand why some people can't get it.
net made them separated because they are separate.
It's quite obvious.

It's not like Rank 1 and 2 of Party Animal. It would be like making rank 1 using party gadgets, and rank 2 eating sweets.
They are similar and related (using consumables acquired usually in parties, events or from gifts) but they are different.

The points can be acquired separately, and in any order.
You can get them, for example, in this order:
- P HM
- F HM
- F NM
- NF HM
- NF NM
- P NM

That means that you can have legendary Guardian (1) WITHOUT making all Normal mode protectors.
A legendary guardian with 2 ranks won't always show that you made normal and then hard mode.
It will just show that you made 2 normal OR hard mode missions. And you could get it WITHOUT having all campaigns:
- P NM
- P HM
- F NM.
Ding, rank 1.
But Legandary Guardian is a title that is meant to be available ONLY to those that own all 3 campaigns.
Most of the other achievement-type 'Legendary' titles have one single rank, that is reached when other various titles are maxed.
The difference is that Legendary Guardian counts two kinds of titles instead of one. But those two are still separate.

See? Easy as pie. Cannot be done to work as asked by the OP the way titles work now.
And even if it was possible, it won't really make sense, no matter how many people try to make it sound coherent.

Alleji · Apr 17, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Makes sense for guardian, no for cartographer.